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Heisenberg might have stayed here
The kitchen planner from John Lewis has visited. His first comment was that the price estimated in the store wasn't realistic - fortunately the figure he suggested was more or less my original budget. He doesn't think moving the oven and hob is a good idea; he thinks I must have a dishwasher; he thinks I should move the washing machine and leave space for an American style fridge-freezer and a table and chairs for dining. He also thinks I need a new ring main for the electrics.

Some of this (the electrics in particular) is reasonable. Some of it (the American fridge-freezer and its plumbing for ice-making) isn't. The problem is, I am a single (well, you know what I mean) man living in a "family" house, and I don't intend to stay here many years. However, the kitchen is in a semi-demolished state so not doing something about it isn't really an option. I have to reach a compromise between my requirements and something that's sufficient not to put family buyers off when the time comes to move on. I knew this, but didn't believe my own ideas were so radical.

I admit surprise that there wasn't a hard-sell on a dishwasher when I went to the store, and I agree that whilst I won't use it much, it is something that people expect in a modern kitchen. As with the rest of the house, it's not an issue of size but of shape, and I have probably been talked out of moving the hob. I'm doubtful about moving the washing machine and doing the sums, his suggestion would leave me with only about half the cupboard space I presently have, and whilst I don't need it all, I think that's going too far.

Thoughts, anyone?

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strange_complex From: strange_complex Date: December 22nd, 2005 02:53 pm (UTC) (Link)
Does the washing machine have somewhere to go?

As for cupboard space, I think that the importance of neither that nor worksurface space should be underestimated.
qatsi From: qatsi Date: December 22nd, 2005 03:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thank you, I think I just needed a sanity check. The kitchen is a fat L-shape; presently the washing machine is in the narrower portion of it (there's also a vent for a tumble drier though I don't have one). I would have expected an estate agent to describe this as a "utility" area rather than a "breakfast/dining" area. But that could be because I'm a cynic and because I'm civilised and eat almost all my meals at the dining table.

You're definitely right about worksurfaces and cupboard space. I've rethought this and recall that beforehand, I was concerned that I wasn't planning enough cupboard space because I live on my own and therefore think of provisions for one, so it really doesn't make sense to me to have even less (to my reckoning, about half what I currently have).

I've dug out an old copy of Visio and sketched out his ideas and mine, and whilst I have taken on board some points, I'm now more convinced about who's the boss!
brixtonbrood From: brixtonbrood Date: December 22nd, 2005 03:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
As a family who has just been through the whole kitchen thing I would say that the lack of dishwasher space might possibly be a deal breaker on an otherwise ok house (if there was another ok house out there with one) but unless you have a huge glam house American mega-fridges are purely "nice-to-have" optional extras (and not even that if you are of a green cast of mind).
Of course huge amounts of storage is always wonderful, but if you were feeling cynical then as long as you have enough space for you, so the place doesn't look cluttered, a potential family buyer might not realise that it doesn't have enough storage space for them.
qatsi From: qatsi Date: December 22nd, 2005 04:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thanks - a family perspective is what I need on this. I've surrendered on the dishwasher front, as I think you're right, it's not much extra money in the scheme of things, and I guess I will find it useful from time to time. Mega-fridges are a bit of a bugbear for me so I'm quite happy to not provide quite enough space for them. (After all, when I moved in, there was no space anywhere for my tall fridge-freezer, so for almost 5 years there has been a 60cm hole sawn through one of the worktops ...)
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